Q: My wife and I just had our first child six months ago, a girl. I was expecting a boy so I was pleasantly surprised. However, now I’m concerned, my wife is a very attractive woman and I’m expecting my daughter to also grow into an attractive young lady. Am I destined to be attracted to my daughter? How can I safeguard against this? - Jon, Palm Beach
A: Dear Jon,
There are different ways in which one can be attracted to one’s daughter. You might one day find yourself thinking, “my, what a lovely, intelligent young lady she is becoming, no wonder I so enjoy our time together.” We would hope that it turns out that way. But if something goes wrong you might find yourself thinking, “nice rack, kiddo, want some candy?”
Ick.
The reason I say that something might go wrong in the second case is that you may be pre-programmed not to be attracted to your daughter, in the icky way, if biology has anything to say about the matter. Here’s why:
Evolution doesn’t like incest because it tends to advance dangerous genes. Let’s say, for example, that you carry a recessive gene for hemophilia, a life-threatening disorder that slows the clotting of blood. Since it is recessive, you can carry the gene without the unpleasant effects. You can even pass the gene to your offspring and it will remain recessive as long as the other parent doesn’t also pass it on.
However, if both parents carry the recessive gene, chances are increased that the offspring will develop hemophilia, become European royalty, and die before he or she can reproduce.
Evolutionary psychologists believe when that particular offspring dies, along with others like him, so does the tendency toward the behavior of incest. What we are ultimately left with, many generations down the road, is a widespread genetic aversion to mating with relatives.
When a behavior like incest interferes with creating healthy offspring, says evolutionary theory, that behavior tends not to survive in subsequent generations. This is probably why diddling the kinfolk is a serious taboo in almost all cultures. Cultures with no rules against incest would be less likely to produce healthy offspring.
Another cultural commonality is that the aversion to incest tends to be strongest in relation to our closest relatives – such as our kids. The more closely those people are related to us, the more genetic information we share, and the less sense it makes to mate with them. At least, that’s the genetic point of view.
Incidentally, you might feel that incest is clearly, obviously disgusting and you don’t need no stinkin’ gene to tell you that it’s wrong. If so, thank your genes for telling you that. The revulsion that you feel about groovin’ with cousin Betty may be your genes’ way of preventing you from engaging in the behavior. Not that you would.
Now you’re asking: So if incest is against the genetic rules, Dr. Smarty Pants, why do some people do it? Well, Jon, some people are crazy. To be more precise, some people are deviant, meaning that their proclivities don’t match yours, mine, and the great majority. Some people, for example, are pedophiles, and here’s where your question comes into the picture.
Psychology, in its never-ending quest to prove the obvious, has discovered that pedophiles are sexually aroused by pictures of naked children. As they were testing this scientific breakthrough, researchers noticed a useful and non-intuitive tidbit: men who molest their female daughters are different in some important ways from men who molest non-relatives (Rice & Harris, 2002; Seto, Lamuliere, & Kuban, 1999).
For one thing, some research suggests that men who molest their daughters typically don’t molest outside the family, and they are less likely to repeat the crime with new victims.
This stands in contrast to non-familial pedophiles who are notorious for recidivism and multiple victims. What’s more, familial pedophiles aren’t as aroused by pictures of naked children as your garden variety pedophile would be. So what makes them ignore the genetic rules against incest? How do they get past the stomach-turning reaction that most of us have? The research suggests a couple of explanations (Seto et al, 2002).
First, it’s possible that fathers who have minimal involvement with their daughters may not be giving themselves the opportunity to develop a normal sexual aversion to their kiddos. Some evolutionary psychologists believe that ongoing, familial-type involvement with other people triggers a behavior that says “hey, I’m spending an awful lot of time with that one, so she must be related. Stay out of those genes.”
Another possibility is that fathers who molest their daughters have trouble getting their needs met in normal, healthy, adult relationships. Lacking normal intimate partnerships, dad begins to notice the one female who depends on him, understands him, and loves him: his daughter. Confusion and/or desperation leads him to take their relationship to the next level. Creepy, I know.
So, Jon, here’s what you can do to avoid being sexually drawn to your daughter when she matures into that attractive young lady. First, realize that paranoia is typical with new fathers. What you are experiencing now may be nothing more than your desire to protect your infant daughter from everything, including yourself.
Second, stay involved with her and become the best father you can be, every single day. Do you remember the “quality time” nonsense from the 80s? The idea was that busy parents would spend very little time with their children, but by God, they would make those precious few minutes count! Sadly, this is a steaming pile of rationalization that some parents use as an excuse to focus on things other than their children.
Quantity time is the key if you want to be a real father, Jon. The quality will follow, and the chances of dysfunction in your family will be greatly reduced if you are there every day to change the diaper, walk her to school, help her with her homework, and even veg out in front of the TV (for those of you who somehow manage to question the significance of fatherhood, see Rohner & Veneziano, 2001). One day she will be looking for a man of her own (or a woman – let’s not confine her) and she will be looking for someone like you. Set a high bar, Jon.
Finally, make sure that your own relational house is in order. Maintain mature, adult relationships with people your own age. And when it’s time to get your ashes hauled, call on Mrs. Jon. Having read this, she will be happy to oblige. You can thank me later.
-IS
“I love your site. About your answer on incest ‘Destined to be attracted to my daughter.’ You mentioned that genes are the cause of one being disgusted by incest, although I don’t have your education I beg to differ. Please let me differ.
Mommy Sue has two kids, Billy and Mandy. Sue dies while in labor and Billy and Mandy are split up and adopted, Billy in Ohio and Mandy in Maine. Years later they go to the same college and meet. The gene does not say, ‘hey you guys are brother and sister.’ They could be sexually attracted to one another yet be disgusted with having sex with their step brother or sister, which is not incest in the genetic sense.
This would imply that it is not genes but rather an emotional bond formed by the feeling of family.
Thanks for reading my two cents. If I am totally off base then I would like my two cents back.”
Two cents? Is this some kind of money making scheme?
One of the theories of evolutionary psychology suggests that sexual aversion to relatives comes about after we spend large amounts of developmental time with them. That theory answers your question. If full-siblings Billy and Mandy were not reared together, then they might not develop a sexual aversion to one another (though the knowledge that they are brother and sister will probably be enough, Luke and Leia Skywalker, who were separated at birth and who can argue with Star Wars?). Unrelated step-siblings reared together, on the other hand, will most likely develop that aversion.
By the way, this article is, hands-down, one of the most widely-read in the archives. Make of that what you will.
-IS
References:
Rice, M. E., & Harris, G. T. (2002). Men who molest their sexually immature daughters: Is a special explanation required? Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 111(2), 329-339.
Rohner, R. P., & Veneziano, R. A. (2001). The importance of father love: history and contemporary evidence. Review of General Psychology, 5(4), 382-405.
Seto, M. C., Lalumiere, M. L., & Kuban, M. (1999). The sexual preferences of incest offenders. Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 108(2), 267-272.
I am in the same boat as Jon is. I am the oldest of three boys with my mother being the only female on her side while my dads side is all boys as well. Out of both sides, I have one female cousin who is very pretty and has grown to be quite the young woman. Growing up, my friends would give me a hard time about her and to be quite honest, I saw where they were coming from. I never knew if that was normal or not but the attraction never got serious so I never thought twice.
Now, being the first out of all of my brothers and cousins to get married, I recently found out that my wife is pregnant with a baby girl. I find myself worrying about those “What if” questions. My wife is absolutely gorgeous and sometimes I fear the possibility of an attraction to the young lady my daughter will grow up to be.
I am a United States Marine and if the military has taught me anything, its that there are some truly sick and twisted people in our world. Especially with our technology today that literally gives people the fuel that feeds their addictions. As a teen and even still to this day, I have struggled with pornography. Anything that can come to mind is literally at our fingertips and the sources are endless. I have personally watched porn ranging from incest to transexual just out of curiosity, and the only reason I feel comfortable about admitting that is because I know that I’m not the only one and its probably more common than people think.
I seriously don’t know the first thing about raising a girl and neither do my parents. I have no idea what to expect being a father and bringing up a girl in the world today. Being “somewhat” of a porn addict, I’m worried that my issues could lead to a sexual attraction to my own daughter who hasnt even been born yet.
Am I just crazy?
Is it normal to have had a small attraction to your only female cousin even though they were never strong enough to cause any problems?
Is it normal for a “Soon-to-be-father” to have fears of being sexually attracted to his daughter?
Hi Anonymous,
First, thanks for serving our country and protecting our freedom. You asked if it is normal to feel attracted to one’s cousin. Without resorting to tasteless jokes about the British royal family or the movie “Deliverance,” I’m certain the answer is yes. I haven’t checked the literature on this particular question, but off the top of my head I’m going to guess that cousins are unique in that 1) we share enough DNA to generally find the idea of sex with them aversive, but not enough to be completely repulsed by the idea (mind you, shared DNA is only one factor in sexual attraction, but let’s set aside other factors) and 2) we usually know them fairly well, and familiarity can breed attraction. So I think it’s not unusual to feel a mix of sexual attraction and repulsion toward cousins.
As to your other question about porn leading to pedophilia… I know of know evidence suggesting that normal, adult-oriented images (as opposed to kiddie pr)n) can lead to pedophilia. I imagine that’s especially true if your porn habits are part of a healthy sexual relationship with another adult.
“This stands in contrast to non-familial pedophiles who are notorious for recidivism and multiple victims. What’s more, familial pedophiles aren’t as aroused by pictures of naked children as your garden variety pedophile would be. So what makes them ignore the genetic rules against incest? How do they get past the stomach-turning reaction that most of us have? The research suggests a couple of explanations (Seto et al, 2002).”
What explanations? You ask a question and leave it unanswered. Can you please continue?
Hi Adam, I think it’s a question of poor formatting on my part. I actually answer the question, I just put the answers under the next subhead. Sorry for the confusion.
Hi Adam,
Well, being a woman myself, I find this whole topic bazzare. Being sexually attracted to your daughter is completely different than thinking she’s beautiful. My father always told me growing up how beautiful I am. I think this fear of becoming sexually attracted to your daughter is just you being paranoid. If you are truely in love with your wife, you’ll be proud of your beautiful accomplishment.This is like me giving birth to my son and being sexual with him when he gets older. It’s complete insest and so dangerous, not to mention gross. I personally believe that you have nothing to be worried about, because your wife hasnt had the baby yet, so the feeling of parenthood hasnt sunk in yet. But when it does, you’ll see your parinoia was absolutly pointless.
Hi, as someone who was molested by her Father I have to say that I am reassured by the questions asked on this page. I wish my Father could have been honest with himself.
Its not an excuse, but I know that my Father was under a lot of physical stress and sexual dissatisfaction when I was a per-pubescent. I matured quickly. I received a lot of attention and compliments from my Father. Sometimes he would only talk to me at the dinner table, when my Mum was right there. He would ignore her and bask me with attention. He would divert all questions back to me. He would tell me how I looked like my Mum when she was younger, he would try and get me to wear my hair like hers. I was a child- I loved my Father, but there were times when even as a child I felt confused and angry that my Father was being so mean to my Mum.
If you are worried, may I reiterate the advice from above? WORK ON THE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR WIFE.
Work on intimacy- the kind where you only ever FULLY open up emotionally with her and only her.
If my Mother (And I think it is KEY to get women/ wives involved for this reason)had also made a commitment to love and be intimate emotionally and physically with my Father, solving any problems together, between them – or a therapist- my story would be very different.
Fathers I applaud you for thinking about this, for being cautious. I don’t think you’re being paranoid. I think you’re been very responsible and INCREDIBLY honest.
In addition to this I guess I would also add that my Father was and sadly still is a bit of a loner, a hermit really. I would encourage you to have good friendships, the kind where you can really talk- where you can kick down a few beers or whatever you do to relax and talk.
I wish my Dad had had more friends to realize he was bathing me at too old an age. I wish my Dad had had more friends/ friends who would have been honest with him and elbowed him when he stared/ oggled me. Friends serve as sounding boards and help form ideas of fatherhood and parenting.
I realize that this is still a taboo area so talking about this with a wife or friend might seem really frightening, but a lot of men have the same fear. My therapist told me she sees a LOT of men with similar fears and questions. Its OK. Asking and talking about it will mean that you’re prepared, should you (hopefully won’t) ever come under such a temptation.
Sorry if I went on, I’m just so glad to see all these concerned men talking about it. Its gone some way to heal me and rebuild my trust in the opposite sex. Thank you.
Thanks Beth.